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		<title>Comment on “By Demonstration: God as He Is, and a Kingdom as It Is Coming (Part 4)” (Lutjens) by kjennings</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/660/comment-page-1#comment-3433</link>
		<dc:creator>kjennings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been listening to this sermon series and this is my favorite so far.  I&#039;ll recommend this to others.  Please keep posting the online sermons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been listening to this sermon series and this is my favorite so far.  I&#8217;ll recommend this to others.  Please keep posting the online sermons.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Joining and Receiving in St. Louis by Ron</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/128/comment-page-1#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to South City Church! Good things are happening there. I wish we could have been at the service on Sunday night. Our prayers continue to go with Jay, Jen and the rest of the folks there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to South City Church! Good things are happening there. I wish we could have been at the service on Sunday night. Our prayers continue to go with Jay, Jen and the rest of the folks there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Blessed Are Those Who Are Persecuted&#8221; (Lutjens) by Mike Brandenstein</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/126/comment-page-1#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Brandenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great question.  Some might say that they are being persecuted for His name&#039;s sake when they arrested for breaking a law that would apply to any person protesting in an inappropriate manner.  In other words, prosecution does not always equal persecution.  

Persecution for His name&#039;s sake is when one is inflicted with trouble due to the hatred of Christ and His message, alone.  I don&#039;t believe that hatred of obnoxious personality,  methods, or pious prejudice is ever a cause of persecution for His name even though these might incite serious repercussions.  

If a U.S. envoy visited a foreign country and was beaten by a mob due to his disrespectful actions toward the people of that country, could he claim persecution in the name of the U.S.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question.  Some might say that they are being persecuted for His name&#8217;s sake when they arrested for breaking a law that would apply to any person protesting in an inappropriate manner.  In other words, prosecution does not always equal persecution.  </p>
<p>Persecution for His name&#8217;s sake is when one is inflicted with trouble due to the hatred of Christ and His message, alone.  I don&#8217;t believe that hatred of obnoxious personality,  methods, or pious prejudice is ever a cause of persecution for His name even though these might incite serious repercussions.  </p>
<p>If a U.S. envoy visited a foreign country and was beaten by a mob due to his disrespectful actions toward the people of that country, could he claim persecution in the name of the U.S.?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hurricane-Relief Outrage by Liz</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/82/comment-page-1#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 03:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can&#039;t a church/church member have a political view?  Are Christians not members of their society?  Why are we not allowed to have a voice in the political process?  I do not think that Chrisitans are called to set themselves apart from the governmental and political workings of their society; Christians are called to be the salt of the earth, and the salt can&#039;t flavor the meat if it is sitting in the shaker up in the cabinet.

And Christians do not think there are different truths about the same reality.  There is truth.  And there is falsehood.  And to quote a person whom I greatly admire &quot;sometimes you have to draw the line in the sand and stand for truth.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t a church/church member have a political view?  Are Christians not members of their society?  Why are we not allowed to have a voice in the political process?  I do not think that Chrisitans are called to set themselves apart from the governmental and political workings of their society; Christians are called to be the salt of the earth, and the salt can&#8217;t flavor the meat if it is sitting in the shaker up in the cabinet.</p>
<p>And Christians do not think there are different truths about the same reality.  There is truth.  And there is falsehood.  And to quote a person whom I greatly admire &#8220;sometimes you have to draw the line in the sand and stand for truth.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Afghan Convert May Be Unfit for Trial by Pip</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/104/comment-page-1#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Pip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The grotesque irony is hard to miss, too:  People who are &lt;I&gt;planning to kill a man&lt;/I&gt; for converting to Christianity are trying to determine if &lt;I&gt;he&lt;/I&gt; is mentally unfit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The grotesque irony is hard to miss, too:  People who are <i>planning to kill a man</i> for converting to Christianity are trying to determine if <i>he</i> is mentally unfit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Afghan Convert May Be Unfit for Trial by Megan</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/104/comment-page-1#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a few thoughts.

1. To state what I think is obvious, it&#039;s horrible.

2. I&#039;m wondering where all of the celebrities normally so concerned with peoples&#039; &quot;rights&quot; are.  Maybe they&#039;re speaking up, and it&#039;s just not being reported (perish the thought!).

3. I think this is a clear example of why cultural relativism is ultimately untenable.  There are almost certainly many people around the world of various spiritual persuasions who are appalled by what&#039;s happening.  However, if you&#039;re a relativist, don&#039;t you have to yield to whatever the Afghan culture says is &quot;right&quot; regarding this situation?  I actually read a quote from an Afghan official saying that  they weren&#039;t against any religion, but this was the law.  A hard statement to  comprehend, but reflective of the global zeitgeist, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few thoughts.</p>
<p>1. To state what I think is obvious, it&#8217;s horrible.</p>
<p>2. I&#8217;m wondering where all of the celebrities normally so concerned with peoples&#8217; &#8220;rights&#8221; are.  Maybe they&#8217;re speaking up, and it&#8217;s just not being reported (perish the thought!).</p>
<p>3. I think this is a clear example of why cultural relativism is ultimately untenable.  There are almost certainly many people around the world of various spiritual persuasions who are appalled by what&#8217;s happening.  However, if you&#8217;re a relativist, don&#8217;t you have to yield to whatever the Afghan culture says is &#8220;right&#8221; regarding this situation?  I actually read a quote from an Afghan official saying that  they weren&#8217;t against any religion, but this was the law.  A hard statement to  comprehend, but reflective of the global zeitgeist, I think.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Simple Way&#8221;: A little too simple? by Kyle</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/98/comment-page-1#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently reading the book. I think that this man is posing extremely radical ideas, however I am becoming more convinced that if we took the Jesus literally then it would not be radical at all but normal. I an not antiAmerican but I am antiAmerican Dream. I beleive that the American dream is not God&#039;s dream. I beleive that the pursuit of this dream takes us further away from what God has asked of us, let alone what He has commanded of us. -Kyle

Visit ampleape.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently reading the book. I think that this man is posing extremely radical ideas, however I am becoming more convinced that if we took the Jesus literally then it would not be radical at all but normal. I an not antiAmerican but I am antiAmerican Dream. I beleive that the American dream is not God&#8217;s dream. I beleive that the pursuit of this dream takes us further away from what God has asked of us, let alone what He has commanded of us. -Kyle</p>
<p>Visit ampleape.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>Comment on KSDK: Billboard Campaign Offers Way To Change Sexual Orientation by Nate</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/102/comment-page-1#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m impressed at the amount of time they gave to the E-Free guy.  Seemed like a relatively unbiased report; they easily could have found a gay proponent to angrily call names and settled for a fairly calm clinical psychologist.

It would have been nice to have them talk to a psychologist on the other side of the issue, so it didn&#039;t come off so much as religion vs science, but otherwise it seemed okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m impressed at the amount of time they gave to the E-Free guy.  Seemed like a relatively unbiased report; they easily could have found a gay proponent to angrily call names and settled for a fairly calm clinical psychologist.</p>
<p>It would have been nice to have them talk to a psychologist on the other side of the issue, so it didn&#8217;t come off so much as religion vs science, but otherwise it seemed okay.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Link of the Day: Monergism.com by Pip</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/100/comment-page-1#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Pip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I had mentioned &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.theopedia.com/Main_Page&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Theopedia&lt;/A&gt;, a theological wiki, a few weeks ago, but perhaps I didn&#039;t. Another good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I had mentioned <a HREF="http://www.theopedia.com/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">Theopedia</a>, a theological wiki, a few weeks ago, but perhaps I didn&#8217;t. Another good one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Chronic &#8212; WHAT! &#8212; les of Narnia! by Ron</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/101/comment-page-1#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed! This is a classic...</description>
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		<title>Comment on More on podcasting by keener</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/99/comment-page-1#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>keener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to thank everyone involved with putting sermons online. It&#039;s helpful for me to review them during the week, and on those Sundays I can&#039;t be at OOC, It&#039;s great to not miss out. Thanks again, everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to thank everyone involved with putting sermons online. It&#8217;s helpful for me to review them during the week, and on those Sundays I can&#8217;t be at OOC, It&#8217;s great to not miss out. Thanks again, everyone!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freedom of religion vs. Freedom of press by Pip</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/97/comment-page-1#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Pip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll disagree and agree, Keener.

First, I agree that the right to freedom of expression &lt;I&gt;can be&lt;/I&gt; an idol of narcissism, and that the press too often leads the way.

But the point of the controversy isn&#039;t about not getting one&#039;s way, it&#039;s about the double-standard that exists in the world about how different religious groups are treated, and the nature of those groups beliefs to affect such a double-standard.

As a Christian, I could easily be offended by any number of depictions of Christ, whether verbally or graphically (though I must admit that I took exception to the Larger Catechism&#039;s Question 109 regarding the sins forbidden by the second commandment). But I&#039;m not. First, because, consistent with my other Christian beliefs, I don&#039;t feel called to violence or protest, nor do I even expect or hold accountable everyone to adhere to Christian beliefs. The Muslim protestors (and those who cow-tow to them) have a different point of view. The irony is that Christians (and Jews) have more of a &quot;cause&quot; to be offended than Muslims, for whom &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007934&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;it&#039;s not even clear that such imagery is forbidden&lt;/A&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll disagree and agree, Keener.</p>
<p>First, I agree that the right to freedom of expression <i>can be</i> an idol of narcissism, and that the press too often leads the way.</p>
<p>But the point of the controversy isn&#8217;t about not getting one&#8217;s way, it&#8217;s about the double-standard that exists in the world about how different religious groups are treated, and the nature of those groups beliefs to affect such a double-standard.</p>
<p>As a Christian, I could easily be offended by any number of depictions of Christ, whether verbally or graphically (though I must admit that I took exception to the Larger Catechism&#8217;s Question 109 regarding the sins forbidden by the second commandment). But I&#8217;m not. First, because, consistent with my other Christian beliefs, I don&#8217;t feel called to violence or protest, nor do I even expect or hold accountable everyone to adhere to Christian beliefs. The Muslim protestors (and those who cow-tow to them) have a different point of view. The irony is that Christians (and Jews) have more of a &#8220;cause&#8221; to be offended than Muslims, for whom <a HREF="http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007934" rel="nofollow">it&#8217;s not even clear that such imagery is forbidden</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Link of the Day: Monergism.com by Ron</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/100/comment-page-1#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monergism.com is a fantastic site full of terrific material. I have spent plenty of time there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monergism.com is a fantastic site full of terrific material. I have spent plenty of time there!</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Simple Way&#8221;: A little too simple? by Ron</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/98/comment-page-1#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 21:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard about this and read a little about it - I must admit that I&#039;m pretty intrigued by the ideas. There was an &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/009/16.38.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article in Christianity Today&lt;/A&gt; back in September about it as well. Another site that seems to be about the same sort of ideas is &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.msainfo.org/default.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mustard Seed Associates&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard about this and read a little about it &#8211; I must admit that I&#8217;m pretty intrigued by the ideas. There was an <a HREF="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/009/16.38.html" rel="nofollow">article in Christianity Today</a> back in September about it as well. Another site that seems to be about the same sort of ideas is <a HREF="http://www.msainfo.org/default.asp" rel="nofollow">Mustard Seed Associates</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Freedom of religion vs. Freedom of press by keener</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/97/comment-page-1#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>keener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/iran_cartoons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; A newspaper in Tehran is sponsoring a cartoon contest about the Holocaust.&lt;/A&gt;

The point of the present controversy is not getting one&#039;s way. It&#039;s not even that the State Department is reacting to the reaction (which is, I know, the point of your post). I happen to believe that the State Department got it exactly right. There needs to be some accountability for ideas that are promulgated in the press. The assertion that these were *only* cartoons, and that Muslims should get over it is ridiculous. I would feel the same if someone drew a picture of Budda stomping  on a bug or of a Hindu sitting down to a steak dinner. The point of the cartoons was never to report or inform, it was to inflame the opposition and galvanize those who agree. 

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/698&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; you can see the cartoons at the bottom of this article,&lt;/A&gt; and you can see why there is anger and outrage over them. 

The right to freedom of expression is an idol of narcissism, and the press too often leads the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/iran_cartoons" rel="nofollow"> A newspaper in Tehran is sponsoring a cartoon contest about the Holocaust.</a></p>
<p>The point of the present controversy is not getting one&#8217;s way. It&#8217;s not even that the State Department is reacting to the reaction (which is, I know, the point of your post). I happen to believe that the State Department got it exactly right. There needs to be some accountability for ideas that are promulgated in the press. The assertion that these were *only* cartoons, and that Muslims should get over it is ridiculous. I would feel the same if someone drew a picture of Budda stomping  on a bug or of a Hindu sitting down to a steak dinner. The point of the cartoons was never to report or inform, it was to inflame the opposition and galvanize those who agree. </p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/698" rel="nofollow"> you can see the cartoons at the bottom of this article,</a> and you can see why there is anger and outrage over them. </p>
<p>The right to freedom of expression is an idol of narcissism, and the press too often leads the way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Review: Christine Rosen&#8217;s &#8220;My Fundamentalist Education&#8221; by CK</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/91/comment-page-1#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 05:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard the author on NPR and she was quite balanced, talking about the benefits (as well as problems with) of her education.  I would suggest that the Amazon.com list is generated from folks expecting something different from her book.

Peace,
ck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard the author on NPR and she was quite balanced, talking about the benefits (as well as problems with) of her education.  I would suggest that the Amazon.com list is generated from folks expecting something different from her book.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
ck</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who should live and who should die? by Pip</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/95/comment-page-1#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>Pip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the key quotes from the article:

&quot;Instead, the court did something just as unthinkable: It handed that power over life and death to the same child welfare agency that had failed time and time and time again to protect Haleigh from her abusers in the first place.&quot;

Ideas have consequences, as we&#039;re seeing here, with power being ceded to &quot;experts&quot; and government entities. This is highly troubling and terribly sad. It&#039;s too bad none of these &quot;decision&quot;-makers was able to hear the sermon on Sunday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the key quotes from the article:</p>
<p>&#8220;Instead, the court did something just as unthinkable: It handed that power over life and death to the same child welfare agency that had failed time and time and time again to protect Haleigh from her abusers in the first place.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ideas have consequences, as we&#8217;re seeing here, with power being ceded to &#8220;experts&#8221; and government entities. This is highly troubling and terribly sad. It&#8217;s too bad none of these &#8220;decision&#8221;-makers was able to hear the sermon on Sunday.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Now Podcasting: Old Orchard Church by Ron</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/94/comment-page-1#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swweeeet! You guys rock, Thanks for getting this set up. And what a great sermon to start with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swweeeet! You guys rock, Thanks for getting this set up. And what a great sermon to start with.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Save Money on Church Renovations by Pip</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/90/comment-page-1#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>Pip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure Lego would pass the Webster City Council&#039;s review, though? ;)

That&#039;s an amazing Lego church, but the whole design looks a little too Robert Schuller/Crystal Cathedralish for my tastes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure Lego would pass the Webster City Council&#8217;s review, though? <img src='http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s an amazing Lego church, but the whole design looks a little too Robert Schuller/Crystal Cathedralish for my tastes&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Pip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should probably add:

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.csmonitor.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Christian Science Monitor&lt;/A&gt;: an international daily newspaper; founded in 1908 by Mary Baker Eddy, it is unlike most US dailies in that it does not rely primarily on wire services, like AP and Reuters, for its international coverage (has writers based in 11 countries and throughout the US).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should probably add:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.csmonitor.com" rel="nofollow">Christian Science Monitor</a>: an international daily newspaper; founded in 1908 by Mary Baker Eddy, it is unlike most US dailies in that it does not rely primarily on wire services, like AP and Reuters, for its international coverage (has writers based in 11 countries and throughout the US).</p>
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		<title>Comment on BBC NEWS &#124; Technology &#124; UN debut for $100 laptop for poor by Pip</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/88/comment-page-1#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>Pip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post, Keener.

Another, less popular because it is less immediately gratifying, option is to stop contributing money to &quot;international welfare&quot; organizations like the UN and avoid the bureacratic waste (to say nothing of the scandals) and allow our own country to improve its own economy, and in turn offer global opportunity to the disadvantaged. It&#039;s a seemingly much slower process, but slower amelioration is perferable to quicker waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post, Keener.</p>
<p>Another, less popular because it is less immediately gratifying, option is to stop contributing money to &#8220;international welfare&#8221; organizations like the UN and avoid the bureacratic waste (to say nothing of the scandals) and allow our own country to improve its own economy, and in turn offer global opportunity to the disadvantaged. It&#8217;s a seemingly much slower process, but slower amelioration is perferable to quicker waste.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kansas State Board of Educators question Darwin by Pip</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/86/comment-page-1#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Pip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As with so many issues like this, the core problem is simply publicly-funded institutions, like schools. If people weren&#039;t forced to send their kids to these schools and their money confiscated in order to pay for it (that goes for people on both sides of the issue), debate would be pushed into proper public arena of discourse of whether evolution theories are valid. Then again, people may understand the core problem exactly, and see it as the solution -- forced teaching of evolution being the only way to indoctrinate -- rather than the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As with so many issues like this, the core problem is simply publicly-funded institutions, like schools. If people weren&#8217;t forced to send their kids to these schools and their money confiscated in order to pay for it (that goes for people on both sides of the issue), debate would be pushed into proper public arena of discourse of whether evolution theories are valid. Then again, people may understand the core problem exactly, and see it as the solution &#8212; forced teaching of evolution being the only way to indoctrinate &#8212; rather than the problem.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pastor Ron for your iPod by Ron</title>
		<link>http://blog.oldorchardchurch.org/archives/84/comment-page-1#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No iPod yet, but I will frequently download sermons that I missed and listen while at work. Mark Driscoll out at Mars Hill Church in Seattle podcasts his sermons and I&#039;ll listen to those as well on occasion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No iPod yet, but I will frequently download sermons that I missed and listen while at work. Mark Driscoll out at Mars Hill Church in Seattle podcasts his sermons and I&#8217;ll listen to those as well on occasion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hurricane-Relief Outrage by Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t ideas be discussed in humility and with grace? Why, in order to feel justified in our positions, do we need to villianize or belittle those who oppose us?

This isn&#039;t a haughty condescension, nor is it a slap on the wrist. I am sincerely asking.  I grew up in church and am still part of a church and this kind of battering and viciousness has been present in varying degrees everywhere. Can&#039;t we look for a way to attack error and pronounce truth without attacking the people who hold erroneous views and pronouncing ourselves righteous?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t ideas be discussed in humility and with grace? Why, in order to feel justified in our positions, do we need to villianize or belittle those who oppose us?</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a haughty condescension, nor is it a slap on the wrist. I am sincerely asking.  I grew up in church and am still part of a church and this kind of battering and viciousness has been present in varying degrees everywhere. Can&#8217;t we look for a way to attack error and pronounce truth without attacking the people who hold erroneous views and pronouncing ourselves righteous?</p>
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		<dc:creator>keener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan,

Thanks so much for adding your perspective to our blog. To answer your question, no, our church is not a representative of the republican party. This blog is a forum in which members of our church can share their perspective, and in which we ca uphold one of the values that we hold very dear: the exchange of ideas and the pursuit of objective truth. I won&#039;t get involved in the particular issues that are in this post, but I&#039;m sure that if you read other posts, you&#039;ll see that there are a wide variety of perspectives on a number of issues. You are right. God is not the God of republicans only, nor is he the God of democrats or any other political party. He supercedes them all, and we are responsible to work out how we live Coram Deo, before the face of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for adding your perspective to our blog. To answer your question, no, our church is not a representative of the republican party. This blog is a forum in which members of our church can share their perspective, and in which we ca uphold one of the values that we hold very dear: the exchange of ideas and the pursuit of objective truth. I won&#8217;t get involved in the particular issues that are in this post, but I&#8217;m sure that if you read other posts, you&#8217;ll see that there are a wide variety of perspectives on a number of issues. You are right. God is not the God of republicans only, nor is he the God of democrats or any other political party. He supercedes them all, and we are responsible to work out how we live Coram Deo, before the face of God.</p>
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